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The Doctor | ❝Eʟᴇᴠᴇɴsᴇs❞ ([personal profile] spacehipster) wrote2012-10-09 07:50 pm

QUESTION MEME

CHARACTERS ARE REACHING COMMENT MILESTONES AND I AM WORKING ON NOT BEING A SLOW LOSER so time for a meme—an everything meme. Relationship meme, hot or not, first impressions, questions, drabbles, headcanon, plans, PIE CHARTS. GO NUTS. Let's talk about all the things, characters, and games!!
brokenbird: (* You Never Laugh Alone *)

[personal profile] brokenbird 2012-10-10 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Spidermom talk to me about Cardinal and how she feels about her teammates.

[personal profile] ex_identifies466 2012-10-10 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
SPIDERMOM LOVES CARDINAL.

Gosh, she really really does. Honestly, she feels like she won the team lottery because she sees every other team on the whole as a) homicidal, b) dumb, so so dumb, c) divided (and therefore, doomed), or d) any combination thereof.

Seriously, we're the goddamn avengers compared to them.

Even without the whole WINNERS BY COMPARISON thing, though, she likes them a lot.

Vodka is the team leader, as far as she is concerned. He's responsible, reassuring, and clearly the hero type. She thinks they need that. Even though the team members obviously have similar moral standards, she feels like he (and Cider somewhat) add a superior moral component to the group, which is necessary! Because she thinks she (and possibly Gin) are willing to go...too far, or will be, when the time comes. THE BALANCE THERE IS COMFORTING because that means they'll do what they have to when things go south but...they won't sink into the psycho pit or anything.

She is extra dere for Vodka in part because he's just easy to understand. Her read on him is pretty clear, no uncertainties. HE'S EASY TO TRUST AND DEFINITELY A BRO ALREADY. Would high-five again.

Cider is a bit of a wild card. He's mature for his age, which she thinks is impressive, even if it has also registered in her mind that something must have happened to make him this sensible and brave at such a young age. As far as she's concerned, Cider is as much of an "adult"/"team player" as she is, regardless of his tinyness. She appreciates that he initiates comic relief too. Every laugh helps and all that.

She doesn't mind being spider-mom, either. As long as that means Cider thinks he can depend on her BECAUSE SHE ALREADY HAS A LOT OF FAITH IN HIM, although she isn't sure of how he works yet. She wants to get to know him better!

Gin is the wildest wild card. She's fairly certain he's a good guy and she's 100% sure he can handle what Decollage throws at them. She gets the idea that he thinks a lot more than he says, though, so she's definitely keeping a closer eye on him, if only to get a better idea of what makes him tick.

SO YES super dere for her team because they're the best.

Tell me about Tim and joker-ing and if/how that's going to affect him in Deco?
brokenbird: (* I'm The Punchline *)

[personal profile] brokenbird 2012-10-10 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
Well I am taking it straight out as it happened. So that's three weeks with the Joker and Harley! I WILL GO INTO IT. Basically it was torture with some conditioning going on to get Tim to the state they wanted. He did not actually GO INSANE as they say in the movie though. He was conditioned to a particular state but broke out of it--WHICH IS PRETTY AMAZING ACTUALLY--and afterwards basically suffered PTSD and such.

The time with Joker involved shock 'therapy' (torture) and the use of various chemicals. That's said explicitly. I'm assuming a lot of the chemicals were a spin on Joker Venom as well as some truth serums. Added to this I assume a lot of mindfuckery going on. And I kinda imagine Tim hates cream pies now cuz I suspect that is what Harley primarily fed him. :') SO HE PROBABLY HAS TASTE AVERSION TO CREAM PIES NOW and will vomit if he tries to eat them. That's a physical reaction that wouldn't go away with memory loss.

My basic timeline is that it took 4-7 days to break him cuz he is somehow an amazing and tough little cookie. The rest of that time was spent on conditioning him into Joker Junior.

THINGS JOKER JUNIOR DID: Follow orders, laugh a lot.

This is not actually that hard to do considering how hardcore his torture was. And for a lot of his Joker Junior scenes before he kills the Joker he has a sort of hunched over stance that could be just the body language of someone who has been abused. He laughs crazy a lot but the way I interpret it is well! HE HAS BEEN CONDITIONED TO NOT CRY. He laughs instead. When batgirl gets near him, when he's aiming at Batman, he's laughing. Its not HAHAHA I AM CRAZY!!! laughter. It is hahahahaha D8 laughter. That in the end does bleed off into him crying instead.

HOW THIS WILL EFFECT HIM!!!

Well, he's not gonna be crazy or broken until he gets the actual memory. On the other hand, he probably won't cry and is more likely to break into uncomfortable laughter if things are bad. Taste aversion to cream pie. :') He probably just won't feel comfortable around clowns EVER EVER EVER. And while he won't be like FLIPPING OUT around them he also won't be himself either and much more likely to hang back and let the others take care of things. For SOME reason they will make him very anxious. And considering he was strapped down to a table for three weeks he probably will not take well to any forms of bondage even if he doesn't remember the incident yet.

What are you looking forward to most in Deco?